Start Talking with Sadie and Scott
Start Talking with Sadie and Scott is the podcast where two best friends dive into life’s weirdest and most wonderfully relatable moments. From bizarre news stories and head-scratching internet trends to everyday annoyances that just don’t make sense, they tackle it all with their signature unfiltered humor. Sometimes they bring in fascinating guests who offer real insights—and get pulled into the chaos. Other times, it’s just them debating life’s biggest mysteries: Why do people clap when the plane lands? If you could plan and be at your own funeral, what would you want? Expect laughs, games, hot takes, and plenty of “did-they-just-say-that?” moments. No politics. No pressure. Just real talk and big laughs. Subscribe now and start talking!
Start Talking with Sadie and Scott
We Were Confident… and Completely Wrong
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In this episode, Scott and Sadie look back at the things they believed in their 20s with full confidence… and zero accuracy.
From “I don’t need sleep” to “I’ll have everything figured out by 30,” they unpack the lies that felt true at the time, and what reality had to say about them later. It’s funny, a little humbling, and very relatable.
They get into career expectations that didn’t quite pan out, relationship myths that aged poorly, and the moment you realize nobody actually knows what they’re doing. Plus, listener submissions, a chaotic news story, and a game that exposes just how committed we all were to our own nonsense.
This one’s about growth, perspective, and realizing we weren’t wrong… we were just early.
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You know how they call it the dog days of summer? And we I think I said the dog days of summer back in July on previous episodes last year. Yeah. These are the dog days of winter.
SPEAKER_03They really are.
SPEAKER_00February is like the shortest month. We hope we get through it as quickly as possible, but yet we're like, hey, it's gonna snow tomorrow and Wednesday and Friday.
SPEAKER_02But then as soon as March hits, you get this little, I guess a little amped about it. Remember, we talked about this last time. As soon as March hits, I'm like, oh, which is why we're doing our March challenge, right?
SPEAKER_00We're doing our March challenge. We're gonna be doing 20 minutes of exercise a day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Sadie's gonna do yoga, weights. I'm gonna try and get up the stairs to change my underwear. Okay. That'll probably take about 20 minutes. When you're my age, it takes that long.
SPEAKER_02It really put your underwear on or to get to the place where you have to.
SPEAKER_00It takes me 20 minutes to get up the stairs, get into the closet, take my underwear out.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then we'll say it's Scarborough style. Take my underwear's underwear. Take my underwear off. And then put the new underwear on. Let's put 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_02Where do you leave your old underwear?
SPEAKER_00In the hamper.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00I'm not a I'm not a like a Neanderthal or like you. What did you call me? I'm a different species.
SPEAKER_02Uh probably. I probably called you that.
SPEAKER_00You did. I can't remember what episode it was, but you called me. You called me a different species.
SPEAKER_02I am awesome, Scott. I'm the best.
SPEAKER_00You're the best co-host a podcast could ever ask for by calling your other co-host a different species. All right. Are you ready to start talking? Are you ready to start because I have brain damage, yes, of course, because of my misophonia. Are you ready to start talking?
SPEAKER_02I am.
SPEAKER_00Welcome everyone to start talking with Sadie and Scott. My name is Scott. I'm one of your hosts.
SPEAKER_02And I'm Sadie the other.
SPEAKER_00This is Sadie the other. Hi, Sadie.
SPEAKER_02Hi, Scott.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna talk about a few things today. And I want you to think back. I want you to think back about. I know it's a long time ago for you, but it was an even longer time ago for me. I want you to think back to your 20s. Okay, so remember how awesome it was.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it was so awesome.
SPEAKER_00You could sleep all day, you could party all night, and then get up and go to work at 7 a.m.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you only did you.
SPEAKER_00You only did.
SPEAKER_02You only did you.
SPEAKER_00That was the biggest thing. Now, here are the things like I think we lied to ourselves. Remember, we always we had that episode where we talked about our parents lying to us? Yeah. I think we lied to ourselves.
SPEAKER_02Of course you do.
SPEAKER_00We did. There were a lot of things we told ourselves. Oh, you know, I'll be. I remember one time I stupidly said to a friend of mine, Oh, I'll probably be dead by the time I'm 25. So I'll just enjoy life. And you know, and he still says he goes, Hey, did you die? You're 72. Are you dead yet? I'm like, fuck, man. I was shut up. I was 17 years old when I said that.
SPEAKER_02Like 17.
SPEAKER_00Cut me some slack.
SPEAKER_02At 30, when you're 20, at 35, you think that's so old. I look at 35-year-olds now, I'm like, wow, you have so much ahead of you still.
SPEAKER_00So there were things that we there were things we believed. And I'm not gonna say like politically or socially, maybe socially actually, but I'm not gonna say that we I'm not gonna worry about going into that part of it. It was the things we said to ourselves that was the crazy part. Like, I'll give you some examples and maybe you can draw some from your own experience. I don't need a routine. I'm good.
SPEAKER_02No, everyone needs a routine.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's the thing, but did we did we follow a routine? Did was that our mantra? Did we need a routine? Because I think everybody listening to the show right now is going to say, I didn't have a fucking routine. No, I don't Do you have a routine now? Let's discuss what's your morning routine? You get up, you're like you shower yourself in silk and butter and honey. Tell you what, I wouldn't then your your servants dress you and bring you down to the main parlor.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, if I was a bazillionaire, that's probably what would happen. But no, that's not what happens.
SPEAKER_00I don't have a do you follow routine? Like, and I'm not talking like obsessive-compulsive disorder or anything like that. Do you have a specific routine that you follow? Because I didn't really have one in when I 20. Because if I didn't have to get up for school or work, I was doing whatever the fuck I wanted. I could sleep to when I wanted, I could eat, you know, Burger King at four o'clock in the morning.
SPEAKER_02Ironically, I I don't feel like I have a specific routine over like for myself, but as a mother, I'm very routined with my children. Like the routine is very, very, very important to me with the kids. Right. So, but I don't apply it to myself. So, okay, but I guess but I hold on. I guess that routine helps me to be in the routine they're in, which so you are essentially that is your routine though.
SPEAKER_00Your routine is to get up and take care of your kids, and your routine will change when the boys get too old and they be like, mom, get out of my room. I'm changing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, I never really thought of it like that. When when you think about it though, like you do have a routine. It's just it just involves other people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but like I eat, you know, I we eat dinner at 5 30, you know, we go to bed at 11, like that kind of stuff. That's a routine saying, I suppose.
SPEAKER_00It is. So let's look at your routine now versus when you were because we're trying to compare our lives now to when we were in our 20s and the lies we always said to ourselves with regards to our lives in the 20s. I'll give you a couple more, and but let's talk about your routine first. Um, I'll know who I am by the time I'm 30. Like you could just go willy-nilly through your life before knowing who you were. Absolutely not. Here's a big one, and we'll get into this. But then we're but first we'll talk about your routine. I don't need help.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_00That was a big thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I guess you wanted to be independent or show everyone that you were becoming independent. Right?
SPEAKER_00We'll get into that. Let's talk about your routine though. Let's let's what's Sadie's routine now?
SPEAKER_02Like when? What hour?
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, waking hour. Like you wake up and what do you do?
SPEAKER_02I wake up, I have a magnesium drink.
SPEAKER_00What's that?
SPEAKER_02Like a a little like powdered magnesium.
SPEAKER_00It's flavored and magnesium is like a metal.
SPEAKER_02It's fizzy and lovely. I love it. Okay, so it calms the nervous system. It calm like it relaxes Let's paint a picture.
SPEAKER_00Let's paint a picture for the audience. What are you wearing? Are you wearing a nighty? Are you wearing like jogging pants?
SPEAKER_02Uh there's you are you wearing your uh my highlighter, my green highlighter.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna take a picture, folks, for for Facebook. Sadie is dressed like a green highlighter this evening in the golden chair. I gotta turn up the lights first, but go ahead.
SPEAKER_02I'm also, I don't even know. I am dressed like a green highlighter, and I'm giving you the big FUs with both fingers. I have the same one in in like fluorescent pink, and I will wear it next time. It doesn't get better than this, people.
SPEAKER_03Come on!
SPEAKER_00Okay, so first of all, A, I want one.
SPEAKER_03I know I know I bet you do.
SPEAKER_00No, I can't see the stains on it. Are there any stains on your sweat drink?
SPEAKER_03Lots of stains, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, you're a mom of three, like things get stained. I know. Unless one of the boys wore it and like stained it.
SPEAKER_02No, I don't think the boys would wear this outfit. Oh god, Scott. What is your problem? I mean, where do we begin? All right, so hold on. He's dimming the lights, everyone.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_02There we go. That's a little bit more.
SPEAKER_00It's not so bright in here.
SPEAKER_02It did feel like I was having a gyneological exam any minute.
SPEAKER_00That was pretty gyneological? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Gyneological? Is that that's not a word.
SPEAKER_02It's my word.
SPEAKER_00You mean gynecological?
SPEAKER_02Whatever.
SPEAKER_00We're we're trying to keep we're trying to keep the lights nice so that you, you know, it's not too bright on our old eyes, but we're in.
SPEAKER_01Studio Volvo 2.
SPEAKER_00God. We're in Studio Volvo 2. I am gonna get so much hate mail for that. I guarantee you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00People are like, dude, it's episode three of season two. Can you please stop with Studio Volvo? Ah.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00I I'm not my fingers are crossed. I promise I won't.
SPEAKER_02His fingers aren't crossed.
SPEAKER_00I promise I won't ever do that again.
SPEAKER_02Okay. You're lying. It's happening. Oh Jesus Murphy. Someone is a spilly pants.
SPEAKER_00All right, we're we had some housekeeping issues to deal with. Which basically meant I knocked over a glass of wine.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Dropped your phone.
SPEAKER_00And I knocked over.
SPEAKER_02Destroyed a art piece.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I did.
SPEAKER_02All the things.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Okay. All right, let's get back into action.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00So when you were okay, so you've got your daily routine. You get up, you make some kind of metal milkshake. And what do you do? Do you stay? Do you have coffee in the morning? Like what's your routine?
SPEAKER_02Sometimes I do. I kind of got out of out of coffee a bit. I was really into the country.
SPEAKER_00You used to take your coffee.
SPEAKER_02Yes, that's how I would drink my coffee. Yes, all black.
SPEAKER_00A little bit of uh cream.
SPEAKER_02No, I don't. When I drink it, I still drink it all black. Go out. All black. Oh dear. What butt- what button is that again? Like what's the number of it? It's the pink one. Okay. Oh, it's the it's the pink one. Okay. Heard.
SPEAKER_00The all black soundbite is the pink button.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh God. Okay. So you don't have a coffee. I don't like that. Do you turn on the TV? Do you start doom scrolling? Because we do like your routine would have been completely different in your 20s.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. I I guess I just sit on the couch for a bit, chill. The kids go to school. Oh.
SPEAKER_00Please tell them to get ready.
SPEAKER_02No, actually, Todd. You're gonna be late. Todd does a lot of the morning. Okay. He does. Well then what are you doing?
SPEAKER_00Sitting on your duff?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so let's compare that to our 20s.
SPEAKER_02Because he's the egg master, right? So he has to do the breakfast.
SPEAKER_00All right. So that's part of the six. I don't know how to cook eggs. You don't that's bullshit. Oh, okay. He doesn't listen to the show anyway. But for our audience, Sadie's pretending not to know how to cook eggs, so she doesn't have to do it. Brilliant.
SPEAKER_02I know. I know. I know I am brilliant. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, so here's here was our route. Like, I'll give you kind of a maybe a general routine of the 20s, of our 20s.
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_00Get up, get dressed, get the fuck out because you're 20 minutes late and you're, you know, 15 minutes away.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Like for a little bit.
SPEAKER_00We just ran the fuck out the door.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you did. You didn't have to answer to anyone.
SPEAKER_00You didn't, but well, like whether it was work or school or whatnot, I think we lied to ourselves about the future. We lied ourselves, lied to ourselves about how things worked at that time. It's you know what it kind of goes towards. When you are talking to um a kid nowadays in their 20s, do you not look at them sometimes when they talk about their life and whatnot and go, you have no idea.
SPEAKER_02I do all the time. I work with a whole bunch of girls in their 20s. I have plenty of conversations like that.
SPEAKER_00Where you can just say, Wow, I wish I could just go out of my head and water in your head and go, You are so stupid. I mean, they're not stupid because they're stupid.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I wouldn't say I wouldn't say stupid, but they just don't know so many things. So many things.
SPEAKER_00If you could go back to your 20s, if you could magically jump in a DeLorean and go back to actually talking to yourself. We're not talking about breaking the space-time continuum or anything.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You get to go back and tell yourself one thing. What would you say to your 20s something, Sadie? Because you were at that point a burgeoning famous actress.
SPEAKER_02Oh God, I wasn't.
SPEAKER_00You were. You were you were acting in your 20s.
SPEAKER_02You were working, making the you know what I would say, and I would say to love myself a little bit more.
SPEAKER_00Okay. And what is what's involved with that?
SPEAKER_02Stop worrying about what everyone is thinking about me. Like, stop internalizing.
SPEAKER_00Right. You all most actors are always like, was that okay? Like, what do you think? How was my performance?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you are also the most neurotic person I know, so thanks, brain damage. It's not brain damage. It's a mental disorder. It's clinical, man. You've just written about it.
SPEAKER_02You've just self-diagnosed, Scott.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it doesn't matter. I mean all the so when you when you say to yourself, love yourself more.
SPEAKER_02Just be a little more confident.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I could always pretend to be confident. You know, sometimes when you're, you know, when you find yourself like, you know, making jokes or acting really silly, it's not, it's not confidence. It's the lack of confidence.
SPEAKER_00It is. So what you're saying is back then, when you were acting like crazy anti-tadie, it was a lack of confidence.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I think people think that I have a lot of confidence.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah. Because you you come across as a confidence person who's very who's very sociable.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I am.
SPEAKER_00You are amenable to other people's feelings. You definitely had the bombastic personality that was Mr.
SPEAKER_02Bombastic.
SPEAKER_03Sorry. Knocked off by Spotify.
SPEAKER_02I'm pretty sure I got all that wrong. So I think we're good.
SPEAKER_00You were also like you were bombastic and you were you were out there because that's some crazy anti-Sadie. And then when when all the kids were the kiddos were really young, you were the fun one that they loved. So did that come from a place of insecurity or did that come from a place of confidence? We're getting really deep. We're getting deep here on start talking. I want to learn more about Sadie.
SPEAKER_02Oh God. I don't want to talk about many. What?
SPEAKER_00I said pardon. I said I want to get inside Sadie's head.
SPEAKER_02Okay. All right, Scott. Uh sorry, what was the question? It was coming. Fuck's sake. You lost me.
SPEAKER_00Totally threw you off in the gold chair.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Was that coming? Oh, my phone's on the floor. Keep talking. Was that coming from a place of confidence or insecurity?
SPEAKER_02I think it to be honest, I think a little bit of both. I think when it, you know, when a cool when you say cool auntie Sadie, you know, when I'm saying with children or again, my nieces or nephews, and I'm acting silly, I very confident. But with peers or older people, you know, like I don't know. I I just I I don't perceive me as someone super confident. But I think others perceive me that way.
SPEAKER_00Well, because you command a room when you walk into it a lot of times, I think. I I tend to do that too, to be honest with you. And that's mainly because of my girth.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But it always takes up a doorway room.
SPEAKER_02I also always wanted everyone to like me.
SPEAKER_00That is an that is an exact sign of insecurity, though.
SPEAKER_02There's there's a there's a performative side of that.
SPEAKER_00Right. There is, but as an actor, you had the training to be able to supersede people reading through it, where you could then project it with talent, right? No, I mean, and honestly, because you were trained to do it, somebody who wasn't trained would have looked like a complete flop or very transparent. So were you hiding it or were you just very good at presenting insecurity? Because I don't think there are a lot of people out there that can do it. And I defy people, like I'm sure our target audience listening to the show, or you know, the mean age is probably 45. And so we've all got kids in their 20s. What do we say to our kids in their teens and 20s? Look, you can fake it till you make it, or you know, you could come across, just don't be the asshole. Yeah, is what I would say.
SPEAKER_02Just be a good human. I tell my kids that all the time. Just be a good human.
SPEAKER_00And that's all you can say.
SPEAKER_02And not not everybody has to like you, and not everybody has to love you. It's that it's just not you're not, we're not in a world where that that happens.
SPEAKER_00I've actually said that to Liam. If you think andor know that somebody doesn't like you, you didn't create the reasons for them not to like you. They created the reasons.
SPEAKER_03They did, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And any attempt you make to make them like you is a complete waste of energy. Total waste of energy. It's one of those things where you just you're gonna get and uh you we I wish I could go back to say to my 20-year-old self, you're gonna realize it's not worth everything that you do is not worth the energy.
SPEAKER_02However, if you told me if you told me right now, hey, listen, Joanna really doesn't like you, I would I that would rock me. Like not even just Joanna, because she's in my family. Just we're at a party, you know, your acquaintance is there, your buddies there. I come in, you know, the next day, you're like, yeah, that chick really didn't like you. Would it bother me? Yes, it would bother me immensely.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think the biggest question is, would I tell you? Oh, would I tell you that, or would I just let it go? Because I maybe have evaluated the situation prior.
SPEAKER_03Maybe.
SPEAKER_00And it may not be worth me making your feeling cert to be able to say anything about it. Not to mention the fact that everybody who's met you that knows me more are like, who's that hot broad?
SPEAKER_02Oh god, in that in that highlighter outfit.
SPEAKER_00In her green highlighter costume. She looks like a crayon. I want to draw all over her.
SPEAKER_02What color would my crayon be right now? Like what color like if I was a crayon.
SPEAKER_00We're having a whole episode and it's gonna be called What Color Is Your Crayon?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. Okay, you you actually suit, you do honestly, the outfit you're wearing right now, you suit green.
SPEAKER_02Because my hair is red.
SPEAKER_00I actually honestly didn't even come into my head when I thought about your color is green.
SPEAKER_02But how I want I want like a nifty, I want like a nifty name. I want like what's my name.
SPEAKER_00Nifty color? Yeah, like I'm not gonna nip name name. I hate nicknames, but you you are also a blue. You're a blue.
SPEAKER_02You know what you are.
SPEAKER_00I don't think you're a pink, by the way.
SPEAKER_02I know what you are. I'm you're your pylon orange. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_00What does that mean? You better be able to fucking A, back that up and B, explain it to me. Because why the fuck? Okay, hold on. I'm a big fucking fat pylon. I'm gonna explain it to you.
SPEAKER_02Hold on. I'm gonna help you right now. Okay, I'm taking a picture, I'm sending it to you. Okay, and then you're gonna understand what I was talking about.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, I totally forgot. Okay, I'm wearing an orange juke because it was cold in the house earlier. Yeah, Jesus Christ. I'm so sorry. I forgot I'm wearing an orange juke.
SPEAKER_02I am so smart. SMRT.
SPEAKER_00There's still no reason to make fun of me. I told you that you were a beautiful green crayon.
SPEAKER_02Scott, you know how much I love you.
SPEAKER_00All right, so what about beliefs? Like, let's talk about some beliefs that we would have. My body will always bounce back.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no. Yeah, I will never get I don't get hangovers.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's what actually that's so we talked about routine, but there's also sleep is optional. I'll sleep when I'm dead. We all said that.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, that was a thing.
SPEAKER_00We're lying to ourselves. We needed sleep.
SPEAKER_02Oh we absolutely need sleep.
SPEAKER_00And now to me, it's the most valuable commodity in my life. Oh, I do it with viligence.
SPEAKER_02Vigilance. Vigilance.
SPEAKER_00Or viligence. It's the other band that didn't make it in the 70s.
SPEAKER_02Viligence people.
SPEAKER_00Ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna play some villages people after this. I don't break.
SPEAKER_02No, we should do one that's I say he doesn't know words. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00That would be a 12-hour episode.
SPEAKER_02It would.
SPEAKER_00So there was other things. Like I, you know, I remember I oh, I work better under pressure. I don't need to write things down because we were, but I do now set like I'll be like, I'll say her name, her, the virtual assistant on my iPhone. I'll say, um, hey, Megan. Remind me to hey Megan, remind me to do this tomorrow. Honestly, in my 20s, I would have remembered it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00Although my to-do list in my 20s never went above two.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Did you have a to-do list in your 20s?
SPEAKER_00Work school, then my late 20s, it was work, it was work wife. Or work soon-to-be wife. Work wife.
SPEAKER_02Did you ever have a work wife?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I had lots of work wives because they studio Volvo Two.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You broke it. Right. No, I no, I didn't have a lot of work wives. Uh, I don't have any now because I work with all men.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_00I know. Uh can I come work at your restaurant? Do you love it? Oh, God. I except for one human being. I love working for women.
unknownWhy?
SPEAKER_00With women.
SPEAKER_03Why?
SPEAKER_00Well, first of all, I know how to treat women. Second of all, I know how to include them in life and not be misogynistically stupid. Um, I also think women are real. And men can be just a bunch of fucking dicks, but That's a whole that's a whole other topic for a whole other time where we need to get a professional in here to kind of analyze.
SPEAKER_02I have not had a lot of experience working with men.
SPEAKER_00Like as an actor, you did.
SPEAKER_02I did, but it was fleeting. You know, I'd come, you know, you'd you'd be with each other for a short period of time. Everyone was excited to be there. Everyone was making lots of money, everyone was nervous, like a whole bunch of, you know, you're working as a little like team, a little community to get this project done. So for sure. It wasn't like the day, the in and out grind of like work. I've never done that. I've never had those relationships. Right. Yeah. Now I do a little bit more now that I'm consistently doing this job.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_02But yeah.
SPEAKER_00Did you find that when you were in your 20s, did did things phase you in hindsight with how they phase you now? Like you, you okay, now you know I love you to death, but you're you're you can be neurotic with certain things, and that's acceptable. That's totally acceptable at our age. But you were not a neurotic 20-year-old or 25-year-old or a 29-year-old. Do you remember?
SPEAKER_02I don't remember. That's something I'd probably have to ask the people around me.
SPEAKER_00Although I'll recanting would never be accurate, though.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because they have something in the center of their prefrontal cortex that says, no, no, I remember Sadie being a complete twit in my 20s. Yeah. But you weren't.
SPEAKER_02I can't answer that. I I don't know.
SPEAKER_00That's a real challenging question, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02It is. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I actually don't know. I would I would think I would have been the same person the whole time, but I I haven't, obviously, I've changed so much.
SPEAKER_00We all change, and you know you should be allowed to change.
SPEAKER_02I have oh, for sure. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_00If you have certain views about a subject that 20 well, we'll take your example. For example, 20 to 28 years ago, you may have had a certain view on something that today you'd go, how the fuck did I have that view? Like there's no way I would have that view now, because you grow and you mature. But I think a lot of times was we didn't realize the impact of aging. The the reality of aging didn't affect us until we hit fucking 40. For and for me, that was over 30 years ago. Oh Jesus. So now it's like fuck, man, I am the most intelligent human being on the planet compared to what I was in my 20s. Do you feel like are you better? Are you like feeling the other man? Are you bigger? Are you better? Are you stronger?
SPEAKER_02I think that happened to me when I became a parent. Yeah, I think that's when my shift in life happened. For sure.
SPEAKER_00So is that something that when you were in your 20s, what did you say to yourself?
SPEAKER_02Like, I never even thought I would have kids.
SPEAKER_00Like kids late too.
SPEAKER_02I did.
SPEAKER_00I I never You were almost 40 when you had your first kid. No. No, sir, you were just over 30 when you had your first kid.
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SPEAKER_02So last one at oh no, 35, last one at 38. Wait, is that right? No, 34, last one at 38, 39. I can't even remember. 39 I was. Holy shit. That is old. I just I it was just never on my radar. I wanted, I had a goal and a dream, and it just it was everything to me to be able to put myself in situations where that could be attainable. And you know, obviously having kids and settling down, I wasn't able to, you know, travel and do all those things. What ended up happening to me was I was in Los Angeles and my grandfather got really sick. And that was my first, that was my first um person in my family, like my first grandparent to pass. Yeah. And so I I rushed home, obviously, and I was at his bedside as much as I could be. He actually passed in front of me. And uh I went home, I still had stuff. I still shit in Los Angeles. I totally was just planning to go back and I couldn't. I just had this moment where I looked at Todd and I'm like, I think we should just start a family because who's gonna be there for me? Like when I'm when I'm him, and I will be, which is so scary to me. Like, who's gonna be around me? I might not have siblings anymore. I'm my parents won't be here anymore. My friends, my friends' kids. That freaked me out so much. And that was that was that was it. I never went back.
SPEAKER_00You needed legacy, but you also needed to know that when you're gone, there's somebody there sitting at your bedside. And that's that's a metaphor for a lot of people.
SPEAKER_02And family is so incredibly important to me. I grew up in a very, I grew up both sides of my um, like my mom's side and my dad's side, big families, lots of cousins, super close.
SPEAKER_00Even when they were all heeshed up in the 70s.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, baby. Uh, you know, family is just really, really important to me. And I think it really that really changed me. I think it really changed me as a person.
SPEAKER_00If you could give yourself just one last piece of advice in your twice, I know what I would say to my guy in the 20s. If you could give one last advice, like because we we had we we now look back at our 20s and realize how much we lied to ourselves, but they weren't lies at the time, they're lies now. Because it's I guess because it was bullshit back then, but we didn't know any better. And when somebody our age told them, Oh, buddy, you have no fucking idea, you just went, Well, whatever, where's the next club? Or you know, can I see her boobs? So if you can give one just not even a piece of advice, if you could just have a quick conversation with Sadie at 25, and you because you were a burgeoning famous actress in Canada. I really love that. What do you say to Sadie at 25?
SPEAKER_02Everything that you're doing right now, that you will not miss when you're not doing it.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I love that. That is fucking brilliant. That's poignant.
SPEAKER_02Oh, thanks.
SPEAKER_00I've tried to actually, I'm not gonna try to usurp your most magnificent statement right there, but I'm I'm trying to tell my kid that now. 20, I'm saying to him, everything that happens now may not have a consequence for what happens 20 years from now, right? But you still have to be prepared. You still have to go to school and you know, delivery. Yeah, yeah, you know, and say you need to ful make those mistakes and end up putting your car in a ditch.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Which he did.
SPEAKER_02Did he?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_00He called me last Saturday, and we'll get into some listener submissions for stuff that they believed when they were twenties, but I'm sitting on the porch drinking coffee, doom scrolling. Phone rings. Oh hey Dad. Oh hey, pal, what's up? I'm in a ditch. Where are you? Uh just down the road. I'll be right there. Is everybody okay? He was driving his girlfriend Leah to uh work.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You okay? Yeah, I'll be right there. So I'm driving down the road thinking, oh, he probably just is stuck in the snow. I'll be able to kind of you know, I'll be able to do it. You know, I'll just drive the car. And I've had I've got the experience because I'm an old man, yeah. Right. I show up his car is on a 45 degree angle in a ditch.
SPEAKER_02Oh no.
SPEAKER_00He was in a ditch. Like he just wasn't in a ditch. He was, I had to hold the driver's door open so he and Leah could climb out of the car.
SPEAKER_02Oh shit.
SPEAKER_00To get out and onto the road.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that must have scared him.
SPEAKER_00He handled it like a fucking champ. Okay, good. He wasn't nervous or anything. So I'm like, okay, buddy, I'll take over. You know, go into dad mode.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Call the tow truck. All right, when can you be here? We'll be here in 30 minutes. I'm like, okay, pal, listen. I need you to go up to the top of the hill, take my car, go up to the top of the hill, and he just stand there and I need you to wave every car down and say, like, my car's in the ditch. Be careful, please. And when the tow truck came, same thing. Because the tow truck driver, he's like, Oh yeah, we're gonna ties the thing around the wheel, and he kind of pulls it out one way, then he readjusts it, and then he pulls it out again. And I said, Fuck. All I'm thinking in my head is how much damage is there on the right side of the car? Because that was what was in the ditch. Fucking thank God for soft Canadian snow. Not a dent.
SPEAKER_03Really?
SPEAKER_00Not a scratch, not a anything.
SPEAKER_03Oh man, you're very lucky.
SPEAKER_00And I looked at it and I'm like, man, if this had and the tow truck driver goes, dude, if this was the summer, that car'd be a right off.
SPEAKER_02Oh man.
SPEAKER_00And I just looked at Liam and I'm like, Are you okay?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like that's he and I have that thing where I just look at him like, you tell me now, because I'll fix it as a dad. Or I'm gonna let you go. You good? Because I uh he waited with his car when I called the tow truck. I drove Leah to work, came back, you know, and we just waited for the tow truck. He the guy was there, he was fantastic. And I just I just you just had to kind of look at him. And those are the lessons I want to try to teach him is you know, but one of the things we said earlier, and this is why I brought up this story, was you need to ask for help. You're too proud in your 20s to ask for help. No, no, I got it. No, no, no, I got it. Yes, we want you to fuck up and make mistakes because you will learn from those, but if I can help you prevent making the bigger mistakes that cost money, time, you know, whatever, yeah. I will definitely do it. But let's get into some listener submissions after that deep story. Okay, we're good. Oh, here's some Denver. Uh Ashley G from Denver, Colorado said, I thought going out every night was peak life. Now I think about my phone battery and my sleep. That's gonna be my phone battery. She was totally lying to herself.
SPEAKER_02That's amazing.
SPEAKER_00Connor T from Calgary, Alberta. I believed rest meant I wasn't working hard enough. He must have been, you know, he must have been thinking about that stuff, right? Zara K.
SPEAKER_02I love your name, Zara.
SPEAKER_00All the way from Manchester, England. She thought, she said, I thought jealousy was passion. That's just something we didn't bring up that that's so different from your 20s to when you become a grown-up.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00Turns out it was insecurity. That's very true.
SPEAKER_021000% it is.
SPEAKER_00Very good. Zara seems very self-aware. She's probably in her 50s.
SPEAKER_02It's amazing what you will put up with. Yeah. Or what you I mean, you don't know you're putting up with it, but what what you are putting up with in your 20s.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Even in your 30s.
SPEAKER_00And it's it may, it may very well be more difficult now because of the amount of shit. In my 20s, we didn't have the internet, we didn't have cell phones. Like whatever I did ended that evening and nobody heard about it. The rumor mill. That was it. I Isaac D from Toronto, not too far from us. I said I'd never live at home again after university. Rent disagreed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, right. Saving for a house.
SPEAKER_00And you know what? One of the things I never really shared myself was I was dating a girl at 19, and we dated for a couple years. I expected to be a father or married by 24 or 25. I expected to be a father by 26, 27. I expected to have my job that was going to get me my career before I was 30.
SPEAKER_02Did you really?
SPEAKER_00I did. Like I that was I was well, but I was brought up by a generation that said, get married, have kids, or get you know, get a job, get married, have kids. Oh, before you were 30. You know, Jesus. I wasn't I was like in my early 30s when Liam was born.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Which would make Liam probably 56 now. So but so that that that's one of the things that I lied to myself. I was telling myself a lie. I didn't lie to myself necessarily, but I told myself a lie.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because sometimes it just doesn't happen. Uh Lindsay M from Seattle, Washington. I thought being exhausted made me interesting. That's a very poignant thing to say as well.
SPEAKER_02Because you're just so busy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, that was a big thing. You had to be busy in your 20s. You always had to have something on the go. I gotta do this, I gotta do that, I gotta, I want I'm doing this, and I'm doing that. I think this generation does it a lot less.
SPEAKER_02Because of scrolling.
SPEAKER_00But they're also definitely more confident than we were. We were so insecure. We were like, it busy meant successful. Whereas that to me now just somebody, oh hey, how's it going? Oh, I'm so busy. I'm like, no, you're not. You're just using that word. You're not busy. You just have a full schedule and you can manage it, right? You're not busy. Lindsay from oh no, we got hit. Oliver, last one. Oliver from London, England. I believed money would fix everything. I probably was like that too. I thought I make enough money, I can do anything I want. And I don't think you can.
SPEAKER_02Well, you can't do anything you want, but it certainly makes life a little easier.
SPEAKER_00Well, you were a rich, famous Canadian actress.
SPEAKER_02It would make life a lot easier. It would. It would. But does it it doesn't buy you happen it doesn't well you happiness, it doesn't buy you love.
SPEAKER_00You just gotta recite every lyric for that purpose.
SPEAKER_02Oh, but it would be nice just not to have to that worry, you know?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so last question, then we're gonna take a break and go into the um a weird news story. In your okay, would you rather you only get you're in your 20s? You're 25 or you're 45? Would you rather be filthy rich at 25 or wait until you were 45 and just have to tough it out for 20 years?
SPEAKER_02Wait until I was 45.
SPEAKER_00Me too. I like a thousand percent. I always thought if I had won the lottery when I was 20, I'd be fucking miserable.
SPEAKER_02And part of it for me is I would love to be able to share that with my humans, right? Like that would be so I would be is that a train?
SPEAKER_00I have no idea.
SPEAKER_02What is that noise?
SPEAKER_00I don't know, my stupid dogs.
SPEAKER_02Fuck. No, I hear a train.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's just a truck on the highway. Yeah, I'm gonna edit all this out.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Uh 36 minutes. I know. I want to be I would want to be very rich at 45 so I could take my family on vacations and do extravagant things with them and tell them how busy you are. Yeah. Just be busy with money.
SPEAKER_00I think it's because in our 20s, we would have spent a lot of money on people we'll never see again.
SPEAKER_02Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Whereas when you spend money on people in your 40s, yeah, they're stuck with you pretty much for the rest of your life. Yeah, I think people And you can pay off the ones that you don't like. Sure. Fuck off. And you could kill the ones you don't like. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02I have a small list.
SPEAKER_00I would hate for you to name it right here, but go ahead.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00I'm taking it. No.
SPEAKER_02I'm taking it to my grave or I'm taking it to their grave.
SPEAKER_00All right, we're gonna be right back with the uh with a crazy news story. It's not really a wacky news story, but it's just something I found we'll talk about.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um then we're gonna play a game, and then we'll wrap up with our listener reviews. So we'll be right back. Are you ready for a bit of a weird, wacky? Like I sound like Johnny Carson. That's wacky. Weird wacky news story of the week.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00This is from this is from Germany, Berlin.
SPEAKER_02Okay. What are the Germans got?
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, the the the the uh title of the article says everything. And it's so sweet, actually. I've seen videos of this, and I never know if they're bullshit or not about the the the deer that comes and you know pushes his face on your window and guides you to its little fawn that's stuck in a river or something like that. This looks pretty legit. Injured seabird desperately pecks at hospital door for help. We're reading this together, by the way. I haven't read it.
SPEAKER_02So cute.
SPEAKER_00An injured seabird sought help by pecking at the door of an emergency room at a hospital in Germany until medical staff noticed it called firefighters to help with his rescue.
SPEAKER_03Aww.
SPEAKER_00It was a cormorant. Have you ever seen a cormorant? Very large bird.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00Almost like a seagull. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like even to knock at the right door.
SPEAKER_00The cormorant, a shiny black water bird, had a triple fishing hook stuck in its beak.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_00When it made its presence known at the glass door of the Clinicum Lynx Dirvessor.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, I'm not, I don't speak to Flockenflogenflug.
SPEAKER_00Hospital in the northern city of Bremen on Sunday. In a joint effort, medical staff and firefighters removed the fish hook and treated the wound. The Bremen firefighter department said, and the stain of the bird was later released back into the into nature on the grounds of the hospital park.
SPEAKER_02You know what they should have done? They should have admitted him and put one of those little bracelets and then set the bomb.
SPEAKER_00And then he would have been like two days later, he'd be like, would somebody cut this fucking hospital bracelet off? I can't get it off because they're so like they're like stapled, like you put it around your wrist and whatnot. Uh when when an injured cormorant does approach humans, it's usually an animal in extreme distress that has lost its natural shyness. And I think that's the case for a lot of animals. They would say, hey, like the mama bear's knocking at your door and it's like, go away, bear. And you're banging pots and pans. Meanwhile, the bear's like, can you just tell me my kid's stuck in a tree?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I'll eat you later.
SPEAKER_00They'll eat you, yeah. Yeah, and then I'll go through your garbage or tip your fridge over or something. That's actually that's that's a weird story, but yet such a sweet story as well. I hope they keep you know in contact with this bird and how that's possible, but well, I've seen those videos, and I never know if again, I never know if they're real, where the bird then comes back or the deer comes back with their other kids and they're like, thank you. Yeah, it's like, no, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how much editing has gone into that. So yeah, but that that's definitely something that um I would always help an animal.
SPEAKER_02Oh, absolutely. I'd be kind of scared.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think it would be interesting. If they attack you, well, then you fucking kill them. Yeah, like defense.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But if they're like, follow me, well, you know, if they kind of continue to walk away.
SPEAKER_02Well, what if one what if one was very injured and not moving, but just like looking at you?
SPEAKER_00So uh I was thinking about this just the other day. Because Henry hit a deer coming here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But he hit him in the hind quarter and he bounced off the car and then ended up running away. And we don't know if he was okay or not. Um, but like seriously, deer. Seriously, deer.
SPEAKER_02Seriously, deer.
SPEAKER_00Seriously, to the deer.
SPEAKER_02You're not gonna blame the deer, are you?
SPEAKER_00I am stop fucking running across the street when a car's coming. Because you saw a light. Oh, look, now I can see the road. Hey, thanks, whoever. Boom, dead deer. Like, don't fucking run when you see lights, you stupid animal. Well, I sound like such a fucking idiot.
SPEAKER_02You sound like such a dickhead. You are a dickhead right now. No, I totally disagree.
SPEAKER_00No, it frustrates me though, because it's like squirrels. Like, we had an agreement. Like, don't run across the street when there's a car. Uh I read playing a game.
SPEAKER_02I read today that this is. You're gonna lose. This is the week where all the baby squirrels are born. So to be really, really nice to squirrels right now.
SPEAKER_00This week, even in this weather?
SPEAKER_02Yep, this is the week where all the little squirrels are.
SPEAKER_00They're obviously hidden away, being breastfed and stuff.
SPEAKER_02No, it says if you see a slow moving oh god, he's gonna kill this dog if you see his face, people.
SPEAKER_00Speaking of animals, I'm gonna take him up top and just fucking string him up. I love my dogs, but the barking. You know what? We we have to understand. I think we have an we have an animalistic sense in ourselves that we can tell as humans, because we are animal, we're all animals. We can tell when an animal is trying to get our help. Yeah, you know, you're kind of like, what is it? What is it? What is it, little fawn deer? What they're not gonna answer you in English and go, hey man, my kid's stuck in a fucking river. Can you come and help? But we still understand.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's like a unspoken.
SPEAKER_00What is it, boy? Jimmy's caught in a well? Thanks, Lassie. Good dog. But I think we think sit, Ubu, sit. Oh, but I think we know the difference between they're just coming up to say hello or they're because usually they're skittish, because they're like, hey, you see those two-legged creatures with like very little hair, stay the fuck away from them. Like if this was uh a movie or something like that. But I'm I'm I'm I would be the first person to be like, I will follow this animal just in case they're yeah, I would yeah, there's some sociopaths that wouldn't, but I just really think that I would hope to have that story that I wouldn't record and not put on social media for some clicks or whatever, just for the satisfaction that I helped a baby deer.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Squirrels, fuck off. Stop running in the fucking road. We had a deal.
SPEAKER_02Remember, I told you I tweaked my back.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Trying to not hit a squirrel. I didn't hit the squirrel, people, but well, I was out for a week.
SPEAKER_00I'm driving down the road from the highway. We come down this road and it takes us straight to our house. And this snowy owl out of nowhere dive bombs my car. What? Well, this giant snowy owl. I haven't seen a snowy owl up here down this way. Like usually they're quite far farther north. He or she just right out of the trees as I'm driving by, right towards my windscreen.
SPEAKER_02Really? Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Windscreen?
SPEAKER_00Windshield, windscreen. I knew you were gonna comment the minute I said windscreen.
SPEAKER_02Scott, that's weird. You are so old. What's wrong with you? Windscreen.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I don't know words, but he almost hit my boot. Meaning the trunk of my car. I don't know. I'm I'm not even I was never even born in England. All right, so this snowy owl comes right towards my car.
SPEAKER_02You windscreen.
SPEAKER_00My windscreen. And at that point, I was like, you know what? If you fucking die by hitting my car, I don't care because you made that stupid decision. No, that was a decision.
SPEAKER_02But how did how do they know that it's gonna hurt them?
SPEAKER_00Uh they don't, but like honestly, like it's fight or flight. Like their fight or flight response should take effect and go, hey, maybe I shouldn't fly towards this giant thing coming at me at 80 kilometers, kilometers an hour.
SPEAKER_02Maybe it was a dare. Here's the thing.
SPEAKER_00Here's the thing. I get home.
SPEAKER_02It's sitting on your front porch.
SPEAKER_00Dee Dee Dee D. I get home and I I come in the house and I say, I'm like, uh, how's it drive? How's it? Everything was fine until this fucking snowy owl dive bombed my car, and Joe's like, oh my god, he did it to me the other day.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_00It's like this thing has a death wish.
SPEAKER_02Well, no, this is what I'm saying. Maybe he has it's like a dare thing with another snowy owl.
SPEAKER_00Jeez, I don't know how many snow snowy owls there are in our area, but this was a massive thing. This wingspan must have been six feet, max minimum six feet. But I thought to myself, you want to do that? You want to you want to fight my car?
SPEAKER_02Maybe there's like two snowy owls in a tree, right? And they're like, whoo, whoo, woo, I dare you to dive.
SPEAKER_00Like, you know, and they're like, I'm sorry, how does that go again? Have you ever heard have you ever seen the TikToks where people are like, they say you sound like an owl, and the person goes, whoo, and they go, ah.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00Oh, well, plus story, Scott. Let's move on.
SPEAKER_03Stupid score. Stupid snowy owls. Stupid snowy owls.
SPEAKER_00All right, let's get to our next segment. We're gonna play a little game. And uh honestly, I hope it is funny.
SPEAKER_02Oh dear, oh god, what?
SPEAKER_00Oh, we'll be right back.
SPEAKER_02All right.
SPEAKER_00All right, we're gonna play a game.
SPEAKER_02What's the game?
SPEAKER_00It's called You Definitely Definitely Said This. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00So this is the this goes back to our 20s, right? We're gonna lovingly expose the confidence andor the chaos from our 20s. Okay. So I'm I'm gonna read a statement. My phone just rang on my computer.
SPEAKER_02In my headphones.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It was awesome. Thanks for that.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna play a game. Okay. It's called You Definitely Said This. So we're gonna lovingly expose the confidence and chaos of our 20s. Okay. So I'm gonna read something out to you, and you're gonna answer yes, no, or I wanted this to be true. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yes, no, or I wanted this to be true.
SPEAKER_00And you don't have to answer any of three of those answers if you really don't want to, but let's just see how it goes. Shoot. All right, this is uh round one is about career and ambition.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, what's the last thing? Yes, no, or what?
SPEAKER_00I wanted this to be true.
SPEAKER_02I want this to be true.
SPEAKER_00Some of these are quite cool, actually, because I guarantee you one, two, three, nine, ten. I've said probably about 15 of these in my 20s. Okay. And maybe you have to.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00I don't need a stable job. I'll figure it out. Yes, no, or I wanted this to be true.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I wanted this to be true. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I I'm I'm the same. Yeah, because in my 20s, I was just like going to school and you know, working in a restaurant. So it was like, yeah, I just I don't need, I don't need a career. I don't want to be like my dad at nine to five or having fun right now. Yeah, I'm just having fun. Okay. Um, oh, here's one. Okay, so I'm gonna preface this by saying a very famous founder of a company said this. No, it it's been since debunked, and a lot of people nowadays in 2025, 2026, think that it's total bullshit. But I have said this. If I love it, it won't feel like work. Yes, no, or I wanted this to be true. I'm uh I'll tell you my answer. My answer is I wanted that to be true.
SPEAKER_02Oh say it to me again.
SPEAKER_00If I love it, it won't feel like work.
SPEAKER_02No, I that I've never no.
SPEAKER_00You're a no. Okay, that's interesting because I I thought you would have wanted that to be. Although you were a world-famous Canadian actress.
SPEAKER_02I but I've been.
SPEAKER_00You should have loved so you did.
SPEAKER_02I did love what I was doing.
SPEAKER_00Then it should have been yes. You're not a no.
SPEAKER_02Okay, I'm not, I am confused.
SPEAKER_00Did you love what you did? Did it feel like work?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it didn't feel like work.
SPEAKER_00Then you're a yes. You're not a no.
SPEAKER_02Maybe I don't have my listening ears on. Okay, moving on.
SPEAKER_00I'll never work nine to five. Totally said that. For me, that's a yes. I totally said that. That's a yes. I no.
SPEAKER_02No, thank you.
SPEAKER_00I'll never work nine to five. All right, here's here's some parts from life. All right. Uh, I'm just not a routine person. Yes, no, or I wanted that to be true. I'm just not a routine person. We kind of mentioned a bit earlier about your routine. You get up, you make your you steal magnolia. I think I'm a routine.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm a I'm a routine. I'm a routine kind of girl.
SPEAKER_00All right. So you're a you're you're good. You're like if you said that in your 20s, you'd be like, yeah, that still holds true.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I'm uh makes me feel calm. I said it, but I'm gonna I have to say no because I yes, I said it then. I'm not a routine person. I just get up, I go to school, blah, blah, blah. Now it's like, if you fuck up my routine in the morning or at night, I literally have to start over. Maybe it's because I got a touch of the Tism. Who knows?
SPEAKER_03You don't know.
SPEAKER_00All right. Um here's one, here's one that we all said. And I'm uh I'll tell you right now, I'm a I'm a uh I'm a yes. I said it. Um, I don't really get stressed.
SPEAKER_02Oh god, I've always got uh I'm I'm I'm just a I get stressed over everything.
SPEAKER_00All right, so you're a no. You like you didn't even care that you want it to be true.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_00Uh here's one. I said this a thousand times, so I'm a yes. I don't need that much sleep.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00I said it before, like I'll sleep when I'm dead. Yeah, right? Yeah, I'm a yes on that. You would I would literally get to work at 4 p.m., work an eight-hour shift, party for two hours. I know, then party again until four or five o'clock in the morning. That's crazy. Like go home and sleep for a couple hours and go back and do the day shift.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_00All right, here's relationships.
SPEAKER_02That's stamina, man. I just don't have that shit anymore.
SPEAKER_00I know. Some people try to hold on to it, and it's a little embarrassing for most folks.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it starts to look a little icky. It does the older you get. Dude, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then that's you know what, men are guilty of it too, because then they start dating a 25-year-old.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Who was stupid enough to date a 55-year-old. Like, come on.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's good.
SPEAKER_00That girl's got some daddy issues.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But at the end of the day, yeah, man, like, stop trying to go back. No, let's just keep going forward.
SPEAKER_03It's not hot.
SPEAKER_00Here we go. Relationships. If it's meant to be, it should be easy. I'm a no for that. Like, fuck that. You fucking loser.
SPEAKER_02No, I agree.
SPEAKER_00Jealousy just means they care. Oh, that's a jealousy just means they care. Oh, that's a tough one.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00Yes, but think about yourself in the I'm a no-node too. Think it's about yourself in the 20s. Would you have put up with a jealous guy? Now you've been dating Todd since you were eight and a half.
SPEAKER_02I've never had a jealous guy. Have you had a jealous girlfriend?
SPEAKER_00Uh no, actually.
SPEAKER_02I haven't I haven't had a jealous boyfriend.
SPEAKER_00I've been a bit guilty of it myself, but it was short-lived.
SPEAKER_02More insecure. Mine was coming from my insecurity, but I wasn't like psycho crazy.
SPEAKER_00Here's one. This is this deals with money in reality.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Money isn't that important. I'm like, oh fuck, are you kidding me? I didn't care about money, but I always had money in my pocket in my 20s. I always had at least 200 bucks in my pocket.
SPEAKER_02I was always good. I was I've always been good with money. Have you been good with money?
SPEAKER_00I used to be really good with money. I'd get my tips, they'd go in the bank, they'd pay off my student loan.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But I always had$200 in cash because back then all we did was deal with cash. We didn't have debit, right?
SPEAKER_02I always had some in my I made car payments, I made insurance payments, but now it's like I bought all my cars from the time I was a teenager until now. I've never had a lease. I've always saved, purchased the car outright. Like I'd like to save for things and buy big things, or I pay my debts down, I pay the highest that I can. I you know, trick my bank accounts into like, you know, squeezing$25 a week and it goes into the other one. Like I'm pretty geared with that.
SPEAKER_00Money was always a big thing in your 20s if you had it, but you didn't care if you didn't. Because you always seemed I had a buddy who was dirt because you had a never had money, but he always he always had a way to come up with enough money to party on the weekends.
SPEAKER_02Oh, first, yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'll start selling dope in the forest.
SPEAKER_00No, he was selling fake fake raffle tickets door to door in my neighborhood, but that's another strike.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00I'll start saving later.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_00I said that to myself and I regret it. I didn't because I'd be retired in my uh I'm like fucking my late 70s and still working.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like I'm not gonna be able to retire until I'm at least 92.
SPEAKER_02Would you want to not work though? Like, are you gonna retire?
SPEAKER_00Oh, I just want to sit and just do what? Go on cruises with my wife.
SPEAKER_02Okay, that's different if you get to retire and then have the means to go travel and do all those things. But if you don't have the means to do all those things and you do have to spend another busy at home, wouldn't you be so bored?
SPEAKER_00Um, I think I would find a different commute. And what I mean is right now I commute to work.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I would find a different thing to commute to.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00But I could definitely stop anytime I want. And I can come home and do whatever I want. Right. So we'll see. Maybe 92. I'm that's my target.
SPEAKER_02Keep me posted. Hopefully I'll still be here.
SPEAKER_00Here's one that I I followed to a certain degree, but then when I met my wife, who's a bit of a I better not say it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh, oh, oh, she's downstairs.
SPEAKER_00Spend thrift would be the word. I don't really budget. That killed that that phrase killed me for 20 years.
SPEAKER_02That you don't really budget. Did you say that?
SPEAKER_00I said it in my I well, I'm I'm a no because I didn't say that in my 20s. And then I didn't do it later on, and now I'm doing it.
SPEAKER_02So I always found it hard.
SPEAKER_00I'm 73. I've only got 19 years before I want to retire. I always found it hard to budget just based on you know my it's actually a lot easier nowadays because of apps and whatever. Yeah. I can literally program my phone with a shortcut that will allow me to every time I make a debit purchase or every time I buy something online, it goes to a spreadsheet and shows me a pie chart of what I'm spending on, so I can look at it and go, fuck, I spent way too much on DoorDash or too much on Amazon or too much on you know OnlyFans. Oh, no, just kidding.
SPEAKER_02I should sell my feet, like do those foot those feet videos on you would make a fortune. You know what the thing is? I feel like that would be a lot of work. I've watched a couple of them, like they have to set up their whole like scenes and it has to be like okay.
SPEAKER_00Do you remember the beginning of the little the the fuck?
SPEAKER_02What beginning of the what?
SPEAKER_00I just had a brain fart. The friendly giant. Remember the show as a kid? The friendly giant on CBC? I remember it, but you had to literally set up a little set with a fireplace and a little rocking chair for something else, and then put your foot in the middle of it and take a photo of it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's crazy. But guys pay money. Oh my god. I read you want to pay off you want to pay off debt quickly?
SPEAKER_02Speaking of feet, and I read this very, very quickly. A woman was charged with her husband for killing over 150 animals, like small animals, with her feet. And people were paying her to do it.
SPEAKER_00She had step on a squirrel.
SPEAKER_02No, like budgies. She had all these all these animals in her house. Kittens, budgies, lizards, kittens. Kittens. I'm not no, yes. Some where were I?
SPEAKER_00I don't remember where she was from.
SPEAKER_02I just read it the other day. Yeah, they were they were charged and you know, detained and you know, all the things.
SPEAKER_00Oh, because some rich asshole would pay like it.
SPEAKER_02And when I was reading it in the article, it was like, you know, crush a kitten for 500 bucks. Like it was whatever, whatever people wanted to send them. It was bizarre. Like, what is that? It was wild, wild. But they had all of these animals in their home.
SPEAKER_00That's not that's not cool, dude.
SPEAKER_02Disgusting. So gross. Oh my god. I know. Ew, so gross.
SPEAKER_00All right, let's wrap up this episode. Before we go to our listener review, we got another five-star review to read.
unknownHello.
SPEAKER_00Um, quick reflection. Let's just go through uh two things. This is gonna be a challenging question on one side of it, I think.
unknownI don't know.
SPEAKER_00You've already kind of said what would you say to your 20-year-old self now, as a soon-to-be uh pentagenarian. You're only a year away.
SPEAKER_02Shut up. We're not talking about it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so I I want two things.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00You go back in time, you talk to your 25-year-old Sadie, but 25-year-old Sadie gets to travel into the future and talk to 45-year-old Sadie, which was three years ago, by the way. Oh no, four years ago. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Sadie's 49. That took a lot of time between the two of us. Some maths. Some mapping.
SPEAKER_00You're almost a you're almost a pencil.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Scott, I am. It's crazy that this is my.
SPEAKER_00I'm almost an octogenarian, so. You are. Yeah. All right, so let's go. We already know what. Well, let's just recap what old Sadie says to young Sadie. What would you say?
SPEAKER_02I can't remember what I said.
SPEAKER_00Don't take too much horn.
SPEAKER_02What was it?
SPEAKER_00I don't remember.
SPEAKER_02I can't remember.
SPEAKER_00It just Oh, uh, don't be so hard on yourself and don't be so self-conscious, or don't be so stupid. Or put that, don't put that there.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00Don't let that get stuck in that.
SPEAKER_02I'm flipping this back on you. What would you say to your you go first?
SPEAKER_00You never ask. Nobody asks. Okay, you go. Nobody ever cares.
SPEAKER_02Oh my God, stop it.
SPEAKER_00I would tell my 25-year-old self that it's gonna be okay. So stop fucking stressing about your mom telling you go get an education, or your dad saying, I don't care what you do afterwards, go and get an education. I did, and it didn't fucking matter at that time. So I would say, you're gonna be fine. Just don't fucking worry about how you get there. Just be a good person and network. Actually, network would be a big thing because most people get jobs right out of university or college by who they know, not by applying on LinkedIn. For 25-year-old Scott to say to 45-year-old Scott, which was 30 almost 30 years ago. I think the 25-year-old Scott would say, hey man, just fucking exercise more. Because you're in good shape in your 20s, but you're not if you don't exercise. So yeah, I think that would have been exercise more. So what about Sadie? What is twat is 25 people have already listened to the episode. We already know what you said. We don't need to recap. What does 25-year-old Sadie get to say to the soon-to-be pentagenarian?
SPEAKER_02What is the 25 the narrative well? Travel more. Go. Just explore more. Stop trying to stop worrying about what you're gonna have to have money for for the rest of your life, which is FYI halfway done.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So go enjoy it a little bit more. Don't enjoy your life a little bit more. Enjoy it.
SPEAKER_00There's a great play. Um, you being a famous former famous Canadian actress may have heard of this play. It's called You Can't Take It With You.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's that's essentially what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00You can't take it with you. And honestly, like I I had a conversation with a friend of mine. I'm not gonna go into details because I don't want to bore everybody with it, but I was having a conversation with a very good friend of mine about a decision that I had made, and I was I was like, I kind of questioned it, but deep down I knew it was the best decision. And he said, and I said, but it the result of my decision is that I don't have as much of a legacy for my kid to have when I die. And he's like, who cares? Let him live his own life. You live your life, and if it if when it expires, like when you finally click your ticket and you have zero dollars in the bank, that's fucking awesome.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that gives me so much anxiety to think about, doesn't it? Like, I mean, I love it. I love anymore. Like theoretically, I love that idea. Like, I love if I would I would be able to like sit in that space and accept that and to be okay with it. But even when you say it, I'm like, oh, that makes me very anxious. Like very anxious.
SPEAKER_00Because you want to leave something.
SPEAKER_02I want to leave something. I want to know that I'm in like not only are my people gonna be taken care of, but that uh I'm gonna be okay. I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00If you have zero money to give to anybody else or a or a house or whatever, does it matter? Do your kids be like, Oh, I just hope my mom dies so I can get my inheritance. That only happens with assholes and rich.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I know, but I do as a parent, I I always want to pro provide. That's a hard thing to shut up.
SPEAKER_00Like you want to pass that on. Yeah, yeah. But I think at the end of the day, that's a that's a very my dad is leaving me nothing.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00So when he goes, it's not about, oh, what do I get? It's how much I've lost. Yeah, yeah. And at the end of the day, he lived his life the way he wanted to live it. And I can't, my kids are not allowed to make me feel guilty about traveling in my 70s, which I do now because I'm in my 70s. But um, he's not allowed to make me feel guilty because it's going to infringe on, and Liam has never done that, by the way.
SPEAKER_02You know what? This has inspired me to go take all all the money that I've saved for the kids for their university education and go on a trip.
SPEAKER_00You and me and the Maldives. Right. Todd and Jerry. Hey Hun, Sadie and I are going to the Maldives.
SPEAKER_03Bye-bye.
SPEAKER_00Okay, let's finish up this episode with a listener review. Are you ready?
SPEAKER_03I'm ready.
SPEAKER_00Fuck. I just read it again. Here we here we go. This is like every fucking episode. This is a five-star rating from Melissa R on on uh are you writing these?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It pisses me off. This one pissed me off now.
SPEAKER_02Oh dear. Hold on. This pylon hat is so cute on.
SPEAKER_00I never wearing this toke in front of you ever again. All right, fine. This is from Melissa R from Halifax, Nova Scotia. Five stars. I came for the theme but stayed for Sadie. She has this way of being efforts effortlessly funny when. While also sounding like the most self-aware person in the room. The back and forth is great, but Sadie's reactions are what make me laugh out loud in my car like a lunatic. More Sadie stories, please. What is every review about Sadie?
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Why don't they like Scott's voice makes me wanna?
SPEAKER_02I don't even think I'm good at this.
SPEAKER_00You are, you're fantastic, you stupid jerks. You have the voice and the alright.
SPEAKER_02Don't press that button. Don't do it black.
SPEAKER_00Jesus. Oh, this one?
SPEAKER_02Studio Bobo.
SPEAKER_00Two.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_00Listen, it I don't listen. I don't write the reviews. They just come in and I regurgitate them. So everybody's loving Sadie on this podcast.
SPEAKER_02Thanks, guys. I really appreciate it. It really pumps up a gal. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00It does. It makes her tell her 20-year-old self, go into podcasting.
SPEAKER_02People are gonna love you later. Don't worry, Sadie.
SPEAKER_00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for this week's episode of Start Talking with Sadie and Scott. We hope that you enjoyed listening to it as much as we did bringing it to you. Sadie, any anything you want to say to the audience before we say we're out for now?
SPEAKER_02What? Oh I missed my cue, guys.
SPEAKER_00Line.
SPEAKER_02Oh, just thanks for listening, guys. Really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00I was showing Scott some fucking appreciation in the reviews.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know what? I want everyone to don't you're not allowed to mention my name anymore. It's just Scott.
SPEAKER_00I love watching. I love listening to Start Talking with Sadie and that other guy.
SPEAKER_02No, you have a great voice.
SPEAKER_00They don't seem to say anything.
SPEAKER_02It's because I'm the idiot of the show. Like you're the smart one. Yes, I am.
SPEAKER_00You're not an idiot.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. I don't know words. I say like too much. All the things.
SPEAKER_00It's a peppy. Oh god, we should just remember my accent last week. Oh my god. Oh no English accents for Sadie.
SPEAKER_02That made me angry as well. Very disappointed at myself.
SPEAKER_00You couldn't do an English accent?
SPEAKER_02Let me try it again. What do you want me to say?
SPEAKER_00My wife was born in England. She can't do an English accent.
SPEAKER_02Okay, hold on. Ready?
SPEAKER_00All right. Are you gonna try to do something in English? Where are you gonna be? Britain? Oh sorry. Fuck. Oh my god. We need to go. This is getting so London, Suffolk.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Are you gonna go to fucking Manchester? Are you gonna be like a scouse in Liverpool?
SPEAKER_02I I don't know where I'm from. I'm just gonna attempt to not sound like how I currently sound. What am I gonna say?
SPEAKER_00I get to give you the sentence. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Don't make it be nice about it. Like words that I know.
SPEAKER_00A snowy white owl flew at my windscreen.
SPEAKER_02A snowy white owl flew from my windscreen.
SPEAKER_00Flew from? Came out of it. Oh, I can't wait to play that for Jonah.
SPEAKER_02Uh, did I do a half-decent job?
SPEAKER_00Let's try one more time.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Alright, so I'll give you another sentence.
SPEAKER_01Okay, go.
SPEAKER_00My boobs are so horny. No. Alright, so I went across the street to the local shop to get some chips. I'm just gonna let the music fade away from now. Bye-bye, Sadia. Love you.
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